Bet that old timer loves his Medicare and social security, though. Lmfao
It’s not socialism if YOU get the money.
Um, they’ll gladly cash that check while promoting the idea that we need to cut Medicare and social security for the future generations.
This is why boomers are pretty much universally hated by all of the younger generations.
One of the many, many reasons*
Lets imagine a “poor” family. They receive $800 per month in subsidy for their health insurance and $400 per month in food stamps. This means the government believes that without these things they would have $14,000 too little to afford to live.
With those subsidies which aren’t calibrated to the penny they may well be able to afford such amazing niceties as $20 a month for a cell phone $50 a month for internet service. The ability to pay a relative pittance for nicities which are barely optional now if you want to have a decent crack at educational or job opportunities doesn’t mean they didn’t in fact need the $14,000 in help. Without it they not only wouldn’t have those things they might well not have enough to eat or medical care their family needs.
Moreover such benefits are based on current need. When a person loses their job nobody shows up to collect their phone, laptop, nice clothes and other things so they can fit in their new role as one of the poors.
Don’t ever let these assholes talk you out of using the goddamn societal safety net. And don’t let your pride do it either.
It was built as the fucking floor of standards. Like, hey, people should be guaranteed 80% of their monthly nutrition needs.
AND if you manage to scratch and claw your way INTO getting Food stamps, they’ll give you $200/month for a household of 5 and call you a burden on society; even though your wife and you both work full time jobs.
Ahhh… the American Dream.
Food stamps are easy to get if you take the time to fill out the forms, and if you’re qualified.
If you need help don’t be afraid by fake horror stories like the above comment. There are people that are more than happy to help you get what you need it you ask.
The accounts per month are different for each state, but no one feeding a family is getting only $200. That comment is pure made up nonsense.
I really wish you weren’t wrong. But using Calfresh if you’re making 2929 with 5 people in the household you qualify. They then find 30 percent of that number. That’s 878 Dollars, and they deduct it from the benefit. The benefit is 1155. You get 276 Dollars, or 55 Dollars per person.
For an entire month.
And god help you if that family is 2 adults, 2 kids, and an elderly person requiring care.
It’s also not supposed to be your entire food budget. It’s a supplemental assistance. For most people it definitely helps get them through each month. Is $55 a person enough? No. But you can also get $300 a person per month. It’s all in the circumstances and qualifications. No one gets a blanket amount.
Lmao.
This is why we have people dying of malnutrition in the US.
Please explain. How does telling people to get help if they need it result in malnutrition deaths?
I feel like I’m missing a narrative here that you want to tell. Everything I’ve said is true from personal experience. So, please, go on, educate me on how anything I said was incorrect.
And also include how much assistance you’ve gotten so we all know what you’re saying is factual.
Lying about the extent of that help prevents us from actually helping them.
Nobody is lying. You really can get between $20 and $300 a person. Even $20 extra per month is $240 per year $55 is $660 per year.
Who’s lying about what?
When I was in college, food stamps helped me a lot from having to take a third job just to eat.
When I was laid off, food stamps helped me feed my family until I can get back on my feet.
It’s a critical piece of basic living. The social stigma and all the arguments about it is stupid to me.
People who have never been poor don’t understand what being poor really means.
It has lasting effects. My childhood was on the poverty line. I’m now, due to plenty of hard work but let’s face it - luck and opportunity (I’m very aware of my privilege in this regard), I’m now considered a high income earner in my country.
But I still struggle to make purchasing decisions without extremely close scrutiny of the value comparisons. I harbour anxiety about running out of money, despite being comfortable and debt free.
My childhood left permanent scars. When you are poor your baseline is stress. It impacts everything you think and do. Even when your situation changes, you can’t completely shake it off.
I think people who’ve never experienced it, somehow think it’s compartmentalized from the rest of your life. Like, ‘oh well, I have no money - that’s ok, everything else is fine’. It pervades every part of your identity.
Remember when conservatives complained about poor people having refrigerators?
The difference is that it is happening to someone else and not you.
Poverty only matters to people when it happens to them.
Poverty only matters to some people when it happens to them.
There’s a lot of people with empathy too.
Huh, thought I posted this already, but I guess I forgot to.
I’ve been on food stamps before. Basically, I said that my parents ranted and complained about “other people” scamming the system and not deserving the welfare, but I did. They also were shocked at how little I actually got each month, because they assumed you were supposed to get a lot more money.
They also were shocked at how little I actually got each month, because they assumed you were supposed to get a lot more money.
You get something like $300 a month maximum, and that is if you are making $0 anywhere else. As soon as you get any type of income it plummets to $50, which is hardly even worth the hoops they make you jump through.
I just checked my State’s rules. [0] The maximum benefit is given by the “thrifty” food plan, which is cheaper than the USDA’s “low cost” food plan.
For a 20 year old woman, that is $242.30 a month. From there, you compute 30% of your net monthly income, and subtract it from your SNAP allotment.
If the result is too low, this provision kicks in:
Except during an initial month, all eligible one and two-person households will receive a minimum monthly allotment of $16, and all eligible households with three or more members which are entitled to $1, $3, or $5 allotments will receive allotments of $2, $4, or $6, respectively.
Truly a golden ticket. /s
[0] https://dhs.maryland.gov/supplemental-nutrition-assistance-program/food-supplement-program-manual/ (section 409)
https://www.fns.usda.gov/cnpp/usda-food-plans-cost-food-monthly-reports
Phones are a lifeline and is often outside of things needed for survival is one of the most important to have to get yourself out of it/through it.
This gets posted the same day I read about the german C*U saying that your savings, house, etc. should get sold immediately before you get welfare after you get fired. Niceee
I wish people stopped censoring online.
Dude, it’s not censorship, it’s shortening the two German parties CDU and CSU.
So just a fancy way of typing CDU/CSU…
Is this normal to refer to these two like that?
Then it would be C[DS]U
Do you know what c*u even means?
People don’t understand how time-consuming and hard it can be to even get food stamps depending on where you are. I worked at my state’s dept of Food Stamps. The lines were always busy because so many people are struggling, then you add on work requirements and other nonsense people continue to struggle.
This is something that drives me crazy, where I live we don’t have food stamps but we have things that are similar. When I was going to miss a Mortgage payment and didn’t have food to eat I called one of the support lines and was told for the mortgage I had to wait for an eviction notice. For the food I had to email them my bank statements before they gave me like 50 for groceries. Forget programs line LTD, I know someone who had to spend at least once a week to remind his insurance he was off because of fucking cancer. Are there some bad actors? Sure. Is there enough to punish everyone? Fuck no.
Rich guy is right his not poor yet, still has the option to mug the rich guy. Perhaps steal his car, kidnap his kids for money. Then if it still does not work overthrow the government.
No money for food stamps, but we’ve always got another billion for more police.
Maybe unemployed guy should just become a cop and spend his time beating on other unemployed people. Then rich guy would love him
Easy: commit a petty crime in front of police.
The government seems to have unlimited money to house, feed, provide 24 hours oversight and free healthcare when they imprison you.
American Prisons are barely more than concentration camps in their modern incarnation. No A/C when temperatures soar north of 100⁰. The food is inedible. The water is toxic. Prison staff largely exist to abuse inmates, while gang membership is required to have any kind of safety behind bars.
And that’s before the pandemic. Mortality rates in American prisons doubled under COVID. It’s a major reason why states like Texas can’t keep their prisons full. Too many inmates are dying while incarcerated.
And just so y’all know, in the USA people on food stamps qualify for a free government smartphone. So that old man and that boy should never have been arguing over whether or not that kid deserves to have a smartphone. because if you are poor enough, you will get a free one from the government.
Old enough to remember people enraged over “Obama Phones”
Egh the flip side of this exists.
I give my mother 700 a month for the mortgage and she’s on food stamps. She also drives a 24 Ford ranger.
