In b4 someone tells me 6 isn’t out yet

  • Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    Simplifying the most recent scroll bar feels like a huge step backwards to me. It really is the epitome of modern tech needlessly boiling down to its basic visual aspects to emulate a “clean” environment for the users.

    Give me back my scroll bar texture damnit

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      8 months ago

      This. Holy shit is it frustrating to click a pixel wide scroll bar that is on the edge between two monitors. It’s even worse when they disappear.

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        8 months ago

        I recently had a complaint with a website:

        “Users are having trouble scrolling!”

        My response:

        “Are they using the scroll wheel/directly scrolling with the touchpad, or using the scroll bar?”

        They were, of course, using the scroll bar. I am now somehow responsible for design choices made at the level of the browser, because browsers have decided that the scroll bar should be nigh impossible to use. Yippee.

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      8 months ago

      UIs get worse all the time, very frustrating. Who needs contrast, right? I have good eyes and know exactly where to look. My mother? Holy shit no chance.

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      8 months ago

      I hated the trend of flat buttons. Then they removed the buttons. Then they basically removed the entire scrollbar altogether.

      At this point, I’d happily go back to the age of flat buttons. That’s how bad things have gotten…

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      8 months ago

      What I hate is how in Firefox in Linux I only have these tiny “slim” scrollbars that hide when not in use.

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        8 months ago

        I didn’t notice much since generally don’t have the arrow buttons and I wouldn’t use them. I use arrow keys, pagination keys, home/end key, scroll wheel/motion, drag the bar or click somewhere to jump there. Those buttons were always quite tiny.

        But the behavior of my scrollbar looks like this: slides in on use or when the mouse gets moved; gets fatter when hovered

        Though hiding stuff sucks indeed.

        Edit: You can configure scrollbar to always be visible.

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          8 months ago

          Well I mainly want the big scrollbars back. Even if these shadow scrollbars of 2px width don’t auto-hide,I still hate them.

          I did find an addon at some point but it seems that it can’t override system settings but I can’t find where it should be a system setting to use these slim scrollbars.

          • Baŝto@discuss.tchncs.de
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            8 months ago

            The scrollbar should double it’s width when you hover it and the hover area is the width of the wider scroll bar with a 6px wide bar and 3px margins on the left and right.

            “Always show scrollbars” also constantly gives you the wider scrollbar.

            Unless you were already talking about this scrollbar and not the thinner 3px wide one with 1px margin

  • xia@lemmy.sdf.org
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    8 months ago

    I seem to recall Apple going through a phase when they put both arrows on both sides of the scrollbar.

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    8 months ago

    2024, scrollbars? What scrollbars? We decided that you don’t need them. Sorry but your adblocker and script blocking, broke our own shitty implementation of scrolling. Please enable all scripts for our large ad family to feast on your data.

    • Waffelson@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      I really hate sites that change scrolling It always looks weird and uncomfortable. Who thinks this is a good idea?

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        8 months ago

        Search engine optimizers.
        If you spend more time on a site, it looks higher value, so they do everything to increase the time you need to find the info you came for.

  • cley_faye@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I miss visible, usable scroll bars. Now they’re replaced with… nothing, because we want everything to be invisible while keeping a lot of empty space in modern designs, it seems.

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      8 months ago

      My favorite is that you can’t see if content is actually off screen sometimes. No scrolbar to indicate and often those clean lines just look like the end of the content. Horrible