• Daft_ish@lemmy.world
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    I know I might be a bit of a porn snob but since I have the means I will attempt to pay for my porn. It’s hard to know if any random porn video was made ethically and that the actors/actresses are being paid appropriately. That’s why I like onlyfans. This way I’m, mostly, assured the money is is going directly to the preformer(s).

    Not to say onlyfans can’t be predatory. As long as I am being descerning in my purchases I am comfortable with it. If an onlyfans model started wildly blurring the line of service provider and customer, I would recommend not paying for services any more. This can be difficult too because I know some of the services invovle intense interpersonal sexual fantasy. I would just say be careful. Especially if you find yourself struggling financially.

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    This isn’t to say all free porn is ethically/morally wrong. I do still browse pornhub etc. I just don’t have the where withal to investigate every single content creator. You never know, the actor/actresses could seem as though they are producing the content at their own volition but there could be a business partner that is taking advantage.

    All this to say, we should be more careful when consuming porn.

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    Onlyfans is an oddity wrapped in an enigma. Not only is there a ton of free porn + all the porn one can torrent but there are dozens of free cam sites out there. I mean dead free! One can watch thousands of nude models nonstop.

    There should be no reason to pay for onlyfans. Ever.

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      And yet, more and more women get onboard the OF train… you’d think people will get saturated with it after a while…

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    It’s good to support creators if you like what they’re doing. I’ve supported Zishy in the past because they do high quality tasteful clothed/teasing photos of women who look like real women (not that there’s anything wrong with bimbos/plastic surgery). If you appreciate what someone is doing, monetary support isn’t unusual at all.

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    I think people don’t pay for porn, people pay to be able to interact with the girl.

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      Especially with those with 1000s of subscribers - how are people fooling themselves into thinking that they don’t have someone answering their messages for them?

      Some of the most popular ones have whole crews for filming - why should social media be something they do on their own?

      I kind of get it for the ones with few subscribers though

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        Our brains are highly effective at tricking us. And if a person is desperate for attention, they will fall into this trap. You’re thinking rationally, but there’s nothing rational about that in the right (or should I say wrong?) state of mind.

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          In that case, OF and sites like that do more damage than good. Instead of having a healthy real world relationship with someone, you get stuck in a dream world.

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            True. Real world relationships however are hard to obtain and hard to maintain. So many people, especially those that are deemed “not normal”, due to looks or behavior, are giving up on that and instead give in to these easy surrogates. It is sad, but not like society presents any solutions.

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    “I still don’t get why people spend money”

    Because you want to support specific content creators and free isn’t sustainable

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      Yeah, but for porn tho…

      Just beat your meat to standard stuff or meet someone IRL, rather than developing some unhealthy attachment to someone on OF who’s exploiting your desperation.

      I dunno, I guess if you just wanna pay for porn you like then it’s fine, but some people develop very unhealthy attachments/obsessions to supplement a real human connection.

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        It’s no different than subscribing to twitch/YouTube creators. The content is just different. There are plenty of people with unhealthy obsessions that aren’t related to porn.

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          You’re right, it’s the same as the lonely people being exploited by Twitch streamers or YT creators.

          There’s a point it goes from “supporting a creator” to “throwing money at someone so they acknowledge your existence and you feel validated”.

          Honestly part of the reason I stopped watching twitch, it’s just sad at a certain point as these people think they’re actually friends with the creator, rather than just enjoying the stream for what it is.

          The whole donation/sub part of twitch culture is disgusting imo.

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            A better example would have been patreon. I’ve never given money to an online content producer of any kind (except my monthly donation to Wikipedia), but if there’s one thing the internet is good at, it’s crowdfunding. Gofundme, patreon, onlyfans, twitch, kickstarter… it’s all the same.

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              True, but I think the key difference is that one is an exchange of services, and the other is taking advantage of peoples desperation for a connection, whether that be a romantic connection or just friendship.

              Satisfying physical urges with porn or supporting a twitch streamer you like is one thing, but these fake relationships between viewers and OF or twitch creators is wrong imo.

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                I feel like you’re way off mark on this.

                I subbed to a chick on Onlyfans because she’s my type and I jerked off to her videos.

                I would wager 95% + of the audience is just that, and not the “unhealthily obsessed” type that you are so hung up on.

                Cases like Grant Amato have got to be the exception. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Amato

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        Yeah, but for porn tho…

        So what you’re saying is sex workers aren’t real workers and don’t deserve to be paid. If that becomes true and no one pays for porn, GUESS WHAT: no more porn. It has to be profitable for the people doing it. It’s not like art, the vast, vast majority aren’t doing it because they love it. They’re doing it for money.

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    Let us not disrespect the paying consoomer as they effectively sponsor the rest of us, especially those using adblockers

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    I still don’t get why people buy books… there’s ton of it at library

    I mean ya, but not the book I wanted to read specifically.

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    Not quite OnlyFans, but when you have specific interests, you gotta find specific folks with skills tailored towards those interests.

    Source: Close buddy of mine is a furry fetish artist. Not suspiciously wealthy, but he’s full time drawing raptor asses.

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      I don’t get the whole furry thing but sometimes I wish I had artistic talents because I would have no qualms getting paid to draw whatever degenerative crap people are into these days. Seems like a solid side hustle.

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    I still don’t get why people spend money… there’s tons of it for free

    There are free video games. There are paid video games. Why do people pay for video games if free ones exist?

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      There’s advantages to paying for video games, even single player such as cloud saves as one example. For multiplayer games you get online play with dedicated servers, rather than finding a workaround like LAN tunneling with pirated games.

      You literally get nothing special from paying for porn.

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        You literally get nothing special from paying for porn.

        You literally get the most special content by paying for porn, personalized content that’s catered to your needs. That’s literally why you pay for it.

        Yes, if I just want to see regular old sex I can just go to one of the bazillion free sites out there. But if I have a specific fetish that only a few creators are doing, of course it’s worth paying for it to support the production of said content, especially if their onlyfans allows requests.

        I totally understand that the vast majority of people are more than satisfied with typical porn and won’t ever feel the need to pay for it, but there’s so much diversity out there that the regular porn sites can’t get to it all, and that’s why some people pay for it, because they really want to scratch a specific itch.

        And before someone says you can just pirate it, trust me, some stuff you can’t even find pirated. I’ve been there. Some creators go through very convoluted methods of distributing their content to deter piracy (especially with pricier tiers fans usually don’t want to spread it to keep it exclusive to themselves).

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          I really doubt the majority of people paying for OF are getting content specifically made for them. This is a weird argument.

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    I mean, you know how there are a million free indie games and lots of slightly shady websites where you can download free copies of paid games? But lots of people still buy games because it’s a better experience or they like to feel like they’re supporting people who are making the kinds of games that they like? It’s a lot like that, but with stigma.

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      I still don’t get it…

      Call me an old fashioned pirate, but for me, it’s more about the trip than it is about the destination.

      I’ve been encountered with this fact about myself many times… I like this girl from somexxx.com website and I gotta take a look at what she’s got published. Low and behold, all sorts of content! OK, gotta pick and find them one by one, gotta be picky about it, 1080p rips only, no 720p bullshit… aaaand after days of searching and downloading… I GOT IT ALL 🤤! And then I don’t even watch it 😒. AND THAT PISSES ME OFF ABOUT ME 😤!

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    Actually, I think of onlyfans subscribers as pathetic simps that are too stupid to pirate that overpriced crap.

    Of course there’s people who pay for onlyfans just to re-distribute it for free everywhere they can. And to those people. I give a sincere thankyou, because 99% of leaked onlyfans content is boring compared to the free stuff that small creators on pornhub put out for free.

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      To be honest, I completely agree. I have downloaded some pirated OF content and it’s boring AF. On the other hand, as you said, there are some content creators on PH, I have them bookmarked… and it’s all free!

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      I’m of the same sentiment but I don’t judge people that pay for porn, after all without them paying for it there would be no money in the porn industry so as a consequence no porn either. Simply put I will never pay for porn but I’m glad that others do so I can feed my addiction.

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      Not sure but tell you what, I watch porn for at least 2 hours a day every day and I never once paid for it. Now I said 2 hours cause I don’t include hentai or hentai games in that. To be fair even thought I pirate most hentai games I did buy the ones that I really enjoyed and are on Steam. So no for porn I never payed I did however payed for hentai. And I most certainly have an addiction or at least a disorder considering the amount of time I waste on this!

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      My mate, Paul, is addicted to cigarettes but he never has his own fuckin smokes. You telling me, he ain’t really an addict?

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        Wait… What… How?

        Is the the type to just smoke in a couple of puffs just to get the nicotine hits? Just give him a nicotine patch at that point.

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      Like what… ego boost 🤨… some chick mentions your name in her stream and you get a hardon from it 🤨?

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        You’re like me and poor but I’ve been around people with jobs and stuff who can afford to throw away money on things and they seem to really enjoy the transaction element to things.

        Like being able to use money to get what they want feels good to them because it kinda justifies their life being dedicated to making money. It’s different for different people but you see the ones who love to buy something others can’t have like five min in private video chat is exclusive so makes them feel special, or you get the ones who feel special by funding something for the group like reaching a target or funding a creator they like.