• Chozo@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    I get why people choose to use tools like this, but I’m personally against SponsorBlock. Sponsors usually pay the content creator a LOT better than YouTube does, and the deals they offer to content creators can go up or down depending on the retention rate during the sponsored segments of previous videos.

    That said, I still manually skip sponsored segments in anything I watch, usually. I’m not gonna pretend to be all high and mighty and act like I sit through every ad and that you should, too. But I’d rather do it manually, so that I can at the very least think about how bad I should feel for ruining their metrics. And also so that if they’re a short one that I don’t mind sitting through, or if I’ve stepped away from my screen while the video’s playing, that they still get their playback metrics for the ad.

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      Someone else’s income is not my problem. Ads are my problem. I support my favorite youtubers with merch buys. I don’t give a fuck about the products they hawk for money, how much they make, or how it sustains them. If the model doesn’t work, then get a new model or die – I don’t care.

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      My home is an ad free zone. I pay for Premium and I’d pay for no commercials, but since that isn’t an option, I block them.

      This war on SponsorBlock is reminiscent of the 80s and the war on VCRs. Advertisers tried to make taping things illegal because they argued people would fast forward through commercials. They were right, but that doesn’t mean we don’t have the right to choose what we watch.

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        Nobody here is trying to force you to stop using it though.

        They explained why they don’t use sponsorblock, and why they believe you shouldn’t either. But the choice is still yours.

        Theres is a wide gap between offering a perspective on why watching the sponsorships is worthwhile, and trying to legally force you.

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          I didn’t accuse them of trying to force me to stop using SponsorBlock. They gave their opinion, so I gave mine. That’s kind of how this works here.

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            But you did go on to compare this situation to the war on VCRs. Which I think is a poor comparison. You gave your opinion, so I gave mine. That’s kind of how this works here for everyone, not just for you.

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        /u/aluminium is arguing for something like VCR companies building a way to skip ads automatically - I paid for the VCR and I don’t want to see ads It’s not their problem what your preference is, and they aren’t incentived enough to care.

        YouTube doesn’t even strictly know what the sponsor conversion rate is, since they aren’t involved in the deal

        Louis Rossmann made a great point a long time ago - adblock my videos and donate me a dollar. That dollar is more that I’d ever get from you as an individual via Adsense or sponsor spots.

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      I understand your point. But still, I have to use sponsorblock. Some content creators have an insane amount of advertising. I would not watch them at all without Sponsorblock. Maybe my view does not make money for them, but atleast it’s good for their metrics.

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        yeah same. there are many youtubers whom i would have just left the video after the first falsely-cheery misleading promotion, whereas with sponsorblock i’ll at least continue watching the video, helping them algorithmically and possibly allowing others who don’t use sb to see their content

        it’s the same thing as “pirated copies ≠ copies not sold”. skipped segments ≠ segments not watched

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          Sponsorblock keeps me from downvoting and exiting immediately if someone properly flagged interactions so thst it skips parts where they ask me to like and subscribe when I just started the video. Why would I just clutter my feed with bunch of subscriptions and like it when I haven’t even had a chance to assess whether I like the content.

          I don’t know why but I hate it even more than YouTube ads and sponsored segments those smash the like and subscribe and ring the notification bell commands.

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          LTT is one reason why I installed sponsorblock. I like their Videos, but wow, it’s full of ads.

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        What a BS excuse. I do it cause I like free stuff and I don’t have to watch the ads or pay for it. Which is the real reason everyone does it. But it well be an interesting next few years with the basically free money drying up in tech they well have to make money somehow. And I imagine a lot of people well cry when stuff folds or other things happen.

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          Or users will just move on. Why stay and get fucked? See reddit --> lemmy. Not everyone will move on, and that’s fine. Let them watch ads and get spied on. That’s not for me.

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            Lol YouTube as a business is basically impossible to run. There isn’t going to be a place to move on to.

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      Also, sometimes sponsors have genuinely good products.

      Karl Jobst had a Geologie sponsor which helped my skin clear up a bit.

      Recently LTT had a WickedCushions sponsor which I’m hoping will work better for my headphones than my Chinese knock-off ones. I want cloth padding, not leather padding, for my headset, and the ones I got don’t snap in place like the official ones. Hoping WickedCushions are better. They’re arriving today.

      Lastly, some of the sponsor segues and spots themselves are just plain funny and add to the content. Karl Jobst with Raid Shadow Legends, Internet Comment Etiquette and Internet Historian with NordVPN, most of LTT’s sponsors, etc.

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        Thank you sponsorblock for making me not have a clue what some of those brands are. Would you also believe me if I said I have never encountered a raids shadow legends segment thanks to sponsorblock and only seen it joked about in reddit comments? I ❤️ sponsorblock.

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            I will always segue into how much I love Sponsor Block and it’s crowd sourced project that allows people to make their experience more ad free.