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    1 year ago

    There’s withdrawal but of the four drugs i have been physically addicted to (caffeine, weed, nicotine, and SSRIs) it’s the only one I can cold turkey in under a week and feel fine.

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        1 year ago

        It’s not so bad if you pop a Tylenol the first couple of days, just to get you through the caffeine migraine phase.

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          Depends on how bad your caffeine addiction is. I tried cold turkey when I had a tooth pulled when I was drinking a pot of coffee a day.

          A week in bed on Vicodin and Percocet, didn’t touch that headache and it didn’t improve or go away until I drank coffee.

          Oddly, I ate a large bag of mushrooms and got tazed by the cops one night. Ended up in the psych ward. Was able to cold turkey the coffee after that. Not sure if it was the mushrooms or the juice from the tazer.

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            Yeah, I’m not sure if Vicodin or perc would help a migraine, different pain killers help in different ways. I think opiods are the least helpful when it comes to migraines, if I remember correctly.

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                1 year ago

                but we’re not talking about migraines.

                we’re talking about caffeine withdrawal headaches.

                neither of which are 💯 understood but that doesn’t make them the same.

                plus, Vicodin has Tylenol in it. so i was taking Tylenol.

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                  1 year ago

                  Caffeine withdrawal can absolutely trigger migraines, easily.

                  Not sure about the Tylenol in Vic, but just that opioids in general don’t work well. You can easily Google it.

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        Life is so fucking grim and full of misery and there’s barely anything to help people cope but weed is the hill you die on.

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            What about caffeine? People act like “drugs are bad” is a reasonable stance, but they mean illegal drugs which just happen to be illegal, usually without good reason. Most adults are drug addicts, it’s just that the drug of choice is caffeine and they don’t see it as an issue because it’s legal and been normalized.

            Animals have been doing drugs for longer than humans have existed. There are many benificial drugs that can help us with manually regulating bodily activity. Used responsibly, drugs can be great.

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              1 year ago

              Caffeine is just a mild stimulant though. Doesn’t have the same affects

              Same with medicinal drugs too. They’re fine

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                Yeah, the point is that drugs are fine morally. It’s when they’re abused they cause issues. There is some line that you’ve made up where drugs become “bad” but it is made up. Recognizing that it’s a made up line is important. I’m not saying you need to use drugs or anything like that, just realize that “drugs are bad” is a blatantly dishonest and untrue statement.

                There are also plenty of psychoactive drugs that can be pretty helpful to human mental health. Marijuana also can have many health benefits, and it doesn’t cause people to do dangerous things usually. Most of the time it just causes people to sit around inside and not bother other people, unlike alcohol.

                Drugs aren’t bad. Drug abuse is bad. Doing bad activities while on drugs is also bad, but the drugs are not.