nVidia has some SERIOUS R&D in the use of AI for the past 10 years.
But using AI in the graphic space… upscaling, downscaling, faking lighting, faking physics…
This is all very useful in making videogames.
Then there was a leap in the way AI Image generation was done with the above hardware. And that opened up a whole new growing field.
It’s just some people took basic language models that have been around for 30 years and scaled them up with their hardware.
And it was neat, and surprising some of the stuff a LLM would output. But not reliable.
And then suddenly a lot of layman’s got their hand on the LLM’s and thought it was the 2nd coming of Jesus, and started throwing big money at it… it will be surprise to no one who knows how these AI’s work that that big money isn’t going anywhere.
But those first two, is no hype. It’s a real viable use case for the AI, and money will be made there.
Youre missing a lot of events in that timeline tbh :p
Nvidia forcing developers to use cuda enabled hardware, hard locking their tech to their hardware, the crypto boom of 2016 and 2020, …
Theyve done a lot of stuff to gamers and datacenters over the past years that made them as powerful as they were when gpt3 hit the public eye.
Me? Im stearing far far away from them. I dont support that business at all.
Im not saying you are defending them, youre just missing a lot of stuff that happened around ai and nvidia in your comment and whatever genai we have now isnt all because of nvidia. That its locked to nvidia is because of what they did before ai hit public eyes.
Current genAI also has not much to do with nvidia besides programs being based on cuda which uses nvidia’s tensor cores for neural processing. From a technical standpoint, nothing ai has to do with nvidia, they just played smart ( and unfair ).
But the insane growth is because of hype. Doesn’t mean it’s useless or makes it invalid, but they would nowhere be this big if it wasn’t for the AI gold rush going on with all of their data centre cards being sold out immediately despite 50x profit margins and such.
Since this is about AI, I asked an AI. Bottom line is… I have no idea and the AI doesn’t either:
How did the CEO of Nvidia insult gamers, artists, and Linux users?
NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang has made several statements that have been perceived as dismissive or controversial by gamers, artists, and Linux users:
Gamers:
In January 2019, Huang criticized AMD’s Radeon VII graphics card, calling it “underwhelming” and “lousy.” He stated, “The performance is lousy and there’s nothing new… [There’s] no ray tracing, no AI.” Such remarks were seen by some gamers as dismissive of competing products and their user base.
[okay?]
Artists:
In January 2024, NVIDIA showcased its ACE microservice, an AI suite capable of generating fully voiced AI characters. This demonstration raised concerns among artists about the potential for AI to replace human creativity and jobs in the industry. While Huang did not directly insult artists, the promotion of such technology led to apprehension regarding the future role of human artists.
[I guess he made a demo of technology?]
Linux Users:
In June 2012, Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, publicly criticized NVIDIA for its lack of support for Linux, calling the company “the single worst company we’ve ever dealt with.” He expressed frustration over NVIDIA’s unwillingness to support Linux systems, which was a significant concern for Linux users relying on NVIDIA hardware.
[It seems we are factoring in a lifetime of resentment. (But I agree)]
Who is he what did he do?
CEO of a company that makes the computer part that is most important for gamers. He has a net worth of about 100 billion USD
Their products are currently better than the competition and they make full use of their position.
They are known for very high prices, scummy marketing tricks, and abusing their small business partners.
The company briefly overtook Apple and Microsoft, becoming the most valuable company at around 3 trillion USD.
Because of AI hype
It’s not all hype.
nVidia has some SERIOUS R&D in the use of AI for the past 10 years.
But using AI in the graphic space… upscaling, downscaling, faking lighting, faking physics… This is all very useful in making videogames.
Then there was a leap in the way AI Image generation was done with the above hardware. And that opened up a whole new growing field.
It’s just some people took basic language models that have been around for 30 years and scaled them up with their hardware. And it was neat, and surprising some of the stuff a LLM would output. But not reliable.
And then suddenly a lot of layman’s got their hand on the LLM’s and thought it was the 2nd coming of Jesus, and started throwing big money at it… it will be surprise to no one who knows how these AI’s work that that big money isn’t going anywhere.
But those first two, is no hype. It’s a real viable use case for the AI, and money will be made there.
Youre missing a lot of events in that timeline tbh :p
Nvidia forcing developers to use cuda enabled hardware, hard locking their tech to their hardware, the crypto boom of 2016 and 2020, …
Theyve done a lot of stuff to gamers and datacenters over the past years that made them as powerful as they were when gpt3 hit the public eye.
Me? Im stearing far far away from them. I dont support that business at all.
I’m not defending nVidia’s business practices at all.
My point is the ‘AI’ hype isn’t hype.
There’s real value added AI work being done outside of the ChatGPT LLM thing going on.
That’s fine but the money flows almost exclusively to the latter part, thus making it an economical bubble which will break soon
Im not saying you are defending them, youre just missing a lot of stuff that happened around ai and nvidia in your comment and whatever genai we have now isnt all because of nvidia. That its locked to nvidia is because of what they did before ai hit public eyes.
Current genAI also has not much to do with nvidia besides programs being based on cuda which uses nvidia’s tensor cores for neural processing. From a technical standpoint, nothing ai has to do with nvidia, they just played smart ( and unfair ).
Yeah, but a tiny sliver of their valuation is attributable to the durable and real value of “AI” approaches.
But the insane growth is because of hype. Doesn’t mean it’s useless or makes it invalid, but they would nowhere be this big if it wasn’t for the AI gold rush going on with all of their data centre cards being sold out immediately despite 50x profit margins and such.
If you want just a GPU, no they aren’t really better.
They have some different strengths, so they may fit some use-cases better, but they aren’t out-right better.
There isn’t even competition for the 4090, what are you talking about?
Co-founder and CEO of Nvidia.
Okay and for those of us not keeping up with the news, why/how did he insult its own userbase?
Since this is about AI, I asked an AI. Bottom line is… I have no idea and the AI doesn’t either:
How did the CEO of Nvidia insult gamers, artists, and Linux users?
NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang has made several statements that have been perceived as dismissive or controversial by gamers, artists, and Linux users:
Gamers:
In January 2019, Huang criticized AMD’s Radeon VII graphics card, calling it “underwhelming” and “lousy.” He stated, “The performance is lousy and there’s nothing new… [There’s] no ray tracing, no AI.” Such remarks were seen by some gamers as dismissive of competing products and their user base.
[okay?]
Artists:
In January 2024, NVIDIA showcased its ACE microservice, an AI suite capable of generating fully voiced AI characters. This demonstration raised concerns among artists about the potential for AI to replace human creativity and jobs in the industry. While Huang did not directly insult artists, the promotion of such technology led to apprehension regarding the future role of human artists.
[I guess he made a demo of technology?]
Linux Users:
In June 2012, Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, publicly criticized NVIDIA for its lack of support for Linux, calling the company “the single worst company we’ve ever dealt with.” He expressed frustration over NVIDIA’s unwillingness to support Linux systems, which was a significant concern for Linux users relying on NVIDIA hardware.
[It seems we are factoring in a lifetime of resentment. (But I agree)]
Didn’t this guy made us overpriced GPUs and Linux support was problematic before?
You’re the one who posted the meme, you tell us
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I read this in Detective John Kimble’s voice.
He Is a tumaaah … on the IT industry