• CIWS-30@kbin.social
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      That only works for 1 or 2 generations, when the immigrants’ descendants find out what the pre-existing citizenry already has found out: that it’s too expensive and difficult to have children, particularly when you’re overworked all the time.

      Plus, immigrants are usually only brought in for jobs that are shittier, harder, lower-paying, and with fewer benefits than the current population of native born citizens already have.

      I’m a children of immigrants in the USA who is childless (hell, most of my cousins are too) and I live around immigrants of every nationality, and most either want to wait until 30 to have kids (and generally only like 1 kid at that) or want to have no kids.

      It’s like that in a lot of western nations with birthrate problems. It doesn’t take long for new people to start acting like the old people if the conditions are bad enough, and they are.

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        My wife and I are just kinda sorta getting to a place where we could consider having a kid. But we are getting a little old to have a kid.

        Also, a kid at this point would tank out ability to save and slow down our career progress.

        So by the time people get to a financial place to have a kid, they are too old to do it. Or they have to sacrifice too much.

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            My sister-in-law want her first child to be adopted and if she decides for a second one she will possibly have her own.

            I think my wife and I decided to stay kid free, but we will be a big part of our niece and nephews life.

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          You’ll be old when you’re dead. Go have a kids and teach them everything you know

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        That’s why you take a steady stream. Also, the culture changes, hopefully for the good, as immigrants bring in new perspectives

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      Abe’s push for native births over integration of foreigners always struck me as deeply racist. Especially knowing the background reasons why birth rates are so low.

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        Yeah he is right wing afterall.

        What are the background reasons for low birthrate?

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          Low salaries and culturally long working hours, plus the cultural tradition for women to abandon their jobs to take care of their children (which they can’t afford to do in this economy, so most just postpone child rearing)

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      I mean that’s definitely the best move in the short term, but they still need to cultivate an environment that encourages having children.