Just taking nudes is not really your fault. If you know how to safely store them.
You get fault Points for:
storing them unencrypted
storing them in unsafe places (online, in a publicly-available Folder on your Computer)
sending them to other people
sending them via unencrypted means
sending them via a avenue that makes backups
The Reason we recommend not taking nudes isn’t because it is your fault if you do, it’s because we know most people are tech-illiterate and don’t know how to safely handle dangerous/compromising Material.
If you’re taking nudes for yourself and not to share… I think you’re in an extreme minority. People take nudes to share. And:
People suck. That person you’re in love with now might UN’s to being the person who burns your clothes when you break up with them.
Information wants to be free. This is what a lot of your points touch on, but the fact is, several companies have access to your data, and making digital copies is so trivial it’s often automatic.
Digital information is forever. Because of (2), once you take a nude, it’s harder to get rid of it than preserve it.
If you share it once, it’s not utterly out of your control. It might be out of the control of the person you share it with; at the very least, if you text it, some techs at your service provider are going to make copies. For gods sake, use E2E chat, people. Another point you raised about digital hygiene.
Yeah, the first panel is entirely justified. It’s like whining about how you shouldn’t have to lock your car doors when you park downtown.
I agree so I upvote, I’m just wondering what “UN’s” is supposed to be in point 1? It’s obviously bad autocorrect but I can’t figure out what it should be
Yeah, autocorrect, and I have no idea what it thought it was correcting to. Probably “end up.” The autocorrect on this keyboard is sort of context aware, so if it got “turn” wrong, then it is also likely to correct “up” to “to”. I’ve gotten some weird sentences out of it by not paying attention. Remember the fad when you’d create a sentence by just picking the next suggested word? I get that sometimes - it’s exacerbated by my use of swipe.
The keyboard is HeliBoard, and it’s probably the best one I’ve used since I quit using the default keyboards, but it does some strange stuff sometimes.
Now we’ve had this conversation, I’m going to have to leave the weird construction.
honestly my “solution” to the problem is damage control. No metadata on nudes, no face ever, no identifying bits of me on the photo (i either blur out or remove my tattoo in photoshop entirely, or i just don’t have it in the frame)
the liklihood of your nudes coming back to haunt you gets significantly decreased, when there’re seas upon oceans of similar photos online
If it’s the first time someone is told this, sure.
If someone is asking not to be constantly harassed for having done this once, then that person is right. Once they’ve been told once, it’s plenty if education is the goal. If the person knows to tell you not to tell them that, they’ve been told once.
If someone is asking that the guy who leaked the nudes be acted against, then that person is right.
If someone is excusing shitting behavior because the victim should have protected themselves better, they are blaming the victim, shame on them.
Yeah “no” exactly… no to sharing with people who are technology illiterate, have no ethics or loyalty to keep personal information confidential. As a guy who loves to receive nudes, it’s not worth it for most women honestly.
How is labeling fault points fault points victim blaming you do realize when people talk about how something fails they typically use the term fault points to refer points where something was faulty like a worn tire being the reason a car crashed
Most people aren’t engineers, it read different to me. Especially when it’s used like “you get fault points for” it sounds more personal than saying “the fault points were”.
It sounds a lot like saying someone is at “fault” to someone who hasn’t heard of “fault points” before
Just taking nudes is not really your fault. If you know how to safely store them.
You get fault Points for:
The Reason we recommend not taking nudes isn’t because it is your fault if you do, it’s because we know most people are tech-illiterate and don’t know how to safely handle dangerous/compromising Material.
The first point in the comic is certainly valid, giving the technical literacy of many people.
If you’re taking nudes for yourself and not to share… I think you’re in an extreme minority. People take nudes to share. And:
Yeah, the first panel is entirely justified. It’s like whining about how you shouldn’t have to lock your car doors when you park downtown.
I agree so I upvote, I’m just wondering what “UN’s” is supposed to be in point 1? It’s obviously bad autocorrect but I can’t figure out what it should be
Yeah, autocorrect, and I have no idea what it thought it was correcting to. Probably “end up.” The autocorrect on this keyboard is sort of context aware, so if it got “turn” wrong, then it is also likely to correct “up” to “to”. I’ve gotten some weird sentences out of it by not paying attention. Remember the fad when you’d create a sentence by just picking the next suggested word? I get that sometimes - it’s exacerbated by my use of swipe.
The keyboard is HeliBoard, and it’s probably the best one I’ve used since I quit using the default keyboards, but it does some strange stuff sometimes.
Now we’ve had this conversation, I’m going to have to leave the weird construction.
honestly my “solution” to the problem is damage control. No metadata on nudes, no face ever, no identifying bits of me on the photo (i either blur out or remove my tattoo in photoshop entirely, or i just don’t have it in the frame)
the liklihood of your nudes coming back to haunt you gets significantly decreased, when there’re seas upon oceans of similar photos online
This stuff depends on context.
If it’s the first time someone is told this, sure. If someone is asking not to be constantly harassed for having done this once, then that person is right. Once they’ve been told once, it’s plenty if education is the goal. If the person knows to tell you not to tell them that, they’ve been told once. If someone is asking that the guy who leaked the nudes be acted against, then that person is right. If someone is excusing shitting behavior because the victim should have protected themselves better, they are blaming the victim, shame on them.
No.
Yeah “no” exactly… no to sharing with people who are technology illiterate, have no ethics or loyalty to keep personal information confidential. As a guy who loves to receive nudes, it’s not worth it for most women honestly.
When we talk about cybersecurity or theft in general, it’s always your fault if you leave the door unlocked.
Holy victim shaming Batman.
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Okay how bout you continue doing it YOUR fucking way then
Yeah, it’s all good advice but labelling it “fault points” is
kindavery insensitive and ignores that people spreading the nudes are in the wrong.There are ways to inform people how to protect themselves without blaming them
How is labeling fault points fault points victim blaming you do realize when people talk about how something fails they typically use the term fault points to refer points where something was faulty like a worn tire being the reason a car crashed
The phrasing was “you get fault points for” which strongly suggests assigning fault rather than listing out “points at fault”.
Also I think the term would be “points of failure” for the way you read it. At least that’s howbive heard it used and used it myself.
You worded that so much better than me
Most people aren’t engineers, it read different to me. Especially when it’s used like “you get fault points for” it sounds more personal than saying “the fault points were”. It sounds a lot like saying someone is at “fault” to someone who hasn’t heard of “fault points” before
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