Rewatching in preparation for the finale, and I keep feeling that the voice of Curzon Dax sounds quite similar to the voice of Odo in DS9. I’m quite aware that Rene Auberjonois passed away not that long ago: may he rest in peace. And I guess he was voiced by Fred Tatasciore (Shaxs), which I can hear too. But I keep hearing Odo which is really nice.
Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
It’s not even close!
What you’re saying is you wish Ira Steven Behr ran the show instead of Rick Berman. And really, don’t we all wish that?
Or her usefulness to the episode could be that Edgar Alien Perv has a crush on her.
Yeah that was a super rough episode.
We just are taking two different perspectives about being essential. Uhura was like an organ: quietly essential to the regular operation of your body. Whereas Hoshi is like hands or maybe ears or something: very important for achieving your body’s goals, but you can compensate for them not working. You’re right Uhura is more essential. I just think it’s more interesting watching the hands / ears of the ship helping achieve the mission.
At least it wasn’t as bad as Mayweather’s character arc of becoming a background extra.
😭😭😭 so true
It’s funny because I have the exact opposite opinion! I feel like in TOS, Uhura just relays messages and presses buttons on her console. Maybe I’m missing something though. Maybe she’s critical to the intra ship communications as the “telephone operator” but she never seems to be critical to the mission.
On the other hand, ENT spends a lot of time building up how many languages Hoshi knows, and how quickly she can pick up new ones, even alien languages. She definitely has her moments where she just struggles until the UT works. But in several episodes they rely on her to translate alien writing, and in at least one or two, she learns to speak a whole new language to communicate. She’s also shown to have developed major improvements to the UT. My impression of her, even from Broken Bow when Archer recruited her, was that she’s a freaking language savant, operating and developing very new experimental tech. It is sad she didn’t get to fully realize her transition from timid linguist to badass crew member (and still linguist). But I always felt like she was doing something critical for the mission, whereas I felt Uhura (in TOS) wasn’t.
SNW Uhura is very different in that regard, she does a lot more “mission critical” stuff and she’s getting an arc that’s very reminiscent of Hoshi (totally a savant, hard working, starting out timid but growing). So I love that for her!
I appreciate the recognition, finally!
It’s not cannon but at least they are somewhat officially acknowledging the absolute dumpster fire that was the ENT finale.
This is exactly what the TNG episode “Lower Decks” was about. It was actually super powerful as a representation of how the decisions made by the captain and bridge officers had a profound impact on the lives of the ensigns (NCOs didn’t seem to be mentioned), without them knowing what’s going on.
The show lower decks was obviously inspired by that specific episode, but definitely lost that serious tone and lack of visibility into the politics/big picture that the captain dealt with.
And honestly I think star trek forgot that NCOs existed and just kept remembering it each time Chief O’Brien had a major episode and his rank came up.
It’s far more important to trek to criticize and reflect modern society, which is a lot harder to do if your characters are living in a utopia.
I disagree… if anything, the opposite is true! Having “Federation utopia” makes it incredibly easy to critique modern society. Just introduce planets which have whatever element of modern society you want to comment on, and then draw a painfully obvious comparison to the perfection that is humanity in the 24th century, and boom, it’s done! Heck, you could even make an entire alien race to critique an element of modern society like capitalism, not that anybody would do something that obvious :P
I feel like TOS and TNG lived on this a little too much, especially in early TNG seasons. It was what made DS9 so interesting when the writers flipped the script. Instead of spoon feeding you the critique of modern society in the form of planet-of-the week, they throw in stuff that makes you question whether the federation utopia approach is actually right, or if it’s too naive.
I can count on one hand the number of mirror universe episodes I’ve enjoyed in trek. But I don’t even need that one hand to count the mirror episodes I liked in DS9…
Absolutely loved the quote in the video near the end, where the dude said something along the lines of “this isn’t the 90’s with 26 episodes, ‘hey this one can be about a ghost in a lamp’”
So glad the franchise can “officially” acknowledge and make fun of its silliness.
It literally changed me
It was fine. A total of maybe 8 minutes of interesting content. I enjoyed the segment with Tawny Newsome and Eugene Cordero watching silly clips. And the interviews on the street were cute.
Jerry O’Connell did have a slight “blink twice if you need help” vibe going on, but I’m not sure how much of that is me projecting it onto him given that the strikes are going on (but I assume this content was prepared in advance?). And honestly, I couldn’t do half as well “hosting” a show with no guests in front of a green screen!
The segment about Discovery was a bit…
And I’m actually a discovery fan! But wow that Paramount Plus narrator was so proud of their achievements, lol
On my first rewatch now and I can say that season one Bashir threw me for a loop because of just how obnoxious he is!! His interactions with any female character, or O’Brien… I guess I forget that the writers had to lay the bedrock of an annoying character in order to cover his later transition into a character we were excited about 🤣
I know reviews are pretty mixed, but I enjoyed listening on and off as I watched Voyager! But I will say that their episodes were pretty long winded for my tastes. In particular, while I understand why they had a section describing all the guest actors, writer, and director, they spent a bit too much time on it for my taste. Especially the actors, where they covered each actor’s first role and usually had a bit of a IMDB review. I personally only really care for the stories about the production of each episode, and also their general reception/opinion of each episode is fun since they’re deeply a part of the trek world.
For me, a briefer version would have been a home run. As is, it’s worth a listen, but you should feel free to skip around.
The real assholes are the Bajorans, they never even erected a statue of Dukat!
A pretty cool episode. Top takeaways:
Plenty more I missed of course.