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  • nonailsleft@lemm.eetoRisa@startrek.websiteEnemies of glory have no honor
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    1 month ago

    That’s just because these questions are disingenious at best. The real questions you should ask is why there are different men and women competitions on all levels (answer: to not deny half of the population to meaningfully compete) and where those people that don’t clearly fall into this binary division should enter.














  • Well, if you want me to prove that some ultra-zionists chased a Palestinian family of their land in the West-Bank today because the latter had genocided them there yesterday, I agree that that is not the case.

    But I hope to make you understand that this is still all part of a larger religious conflict. This isn’t something that suddenly started in 1947. Your claim that they were all living happily together until the 1940’s is too broad, and quite wrong.

    There are plenty of examples of how jews were discriminated against, small and large, ancient and recent. I agree that in the relatively sparsely populated Palestininan territories themselves, there wasn’t very much enmity. And that was probably one of the reasons the zionist movement chose it.

    The first large waves of immigrants came from Russia and Eastern Europe because of the genocidal religious discrimination they faced there. Later those who experienced the same under catholic and islamic majorities, with the nazis taking the crown, followed suit.

    And it’s not like the local muslim population welcomed this stream of immigrants. They themselves were expecting to come out of the Ottoman empire, and later Mandatory Palestine, with an islamic Arab state (where they would remain first class citizens). This led to the first larger clashes following WW1 resulting in both sides polarizing and militarizing, and the creation of Haganah and Irgun. And they’re still fighting the same fight today. Was it ‘wrong’ for all those jews to migrate there? Perhaps. Was it ‘wrong’ for the local muslims not to welcome them? Perhaps. But the history isn’t as one sided as you describe it.


  • You’re conflating and misrepresenting two of the examples I gave. I wonder why.

    I gave you the link these examples come from five posts up. If you can’t be bothered to spend five minutes reading that, why are you so invested in this conflict (and discussion)?

    Here’s a bonus one to quench your thirst for whataboutism, from the same article:

    He compelled them to wear distinguishing garments, with a very noticeable yellow cloth for a head-covering; from that time forward the clothing of the Jews formed an important subject in the legal regulations concerning them.