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  • ! is supported

    Vim’s command line, i.e, commands starting with :. The vanishingly few it does support are, again, only the most basic, surface-level commands (and some commands aren’t even related to their vim counterparts, like :cwindow, which doesn’t open the quick fix list since the extension doesn’t support that feature).

    Your experience is out of date.

    The last commit to the supported features doc was 5 years ago, so no, it isn’t. Seriously, you can’t possibly look at that doc and tell me that encompasses even 20% of vim’s features. Where’s the quick fix list? The location list? The args list? The change list? The jump list? Buffers? Vim-style window management (including vim’s tabs)? Tags? Autocommands (no, what it has does not count)? Ftplugins? ins-completion? The undo tree? Where’s :edit, :find, :read [!], and :write !? :cdo, :argdo, :bufdo, :windo?

    Compared to what vim can do, it is absolutely a joke.



  • There’s many very basic features of vim that VsVim does not have (like… almost all command line commands), basic features which regular vim users use all the time.

    You seem to think that people using vim emulation is the norm and using vim itself is the exception and unusual… Which is very much not the case. The opposite is true, with VsVim users being a minority. It’s relatively novel among vscode users (most just use a mouse and maybe a small handful of built-in shortcuts), whereas vim itself is quite ubiquitous in the Unix world, with many Linux machines even providing it as the default editor. I know many vim and emacs users (including lots that I work with), and maybe 1 VsVim user (honestly not even sure if they do).



  • Yeah it sounds like you’re trying to mock me but it mostly just comes across as confusing. Maybe it’s just sarcasm? Hard to tell.

    Anyway, it’s pretty well-known in the vim community that VSVim is pretty lackluster vim emulation. There are much better examples of vim emulation out there, such as evil for emacs.

    It honestly has nothing to do with being a “power user”. It’s simply false to claim that vscode has more features than vim (which is what the parent comment was claiming), and this should be evident to anyone with more than the most basic, surface-level understanding of vim (more than vimtutor, basically). Vim is a lot more than HJKL and ciw.

    I’m not annoyed with VsVim really since I honestly don’t really think about it as it’s not all that relevant. I do find it a bit irksome when people make false or misleading claims about vim from a place of ignorance about what it actually is.

    It’s a strange phenomenon with vim in particular, where many people are exposed to it at their periphery, read some reductive claim about it online, and parrot said claim all over the place as though it were fact. Perhaps the nature of being a tool that most are exposed to but few actually learn.


  • Vim is extremely feature-rich, and people that think otherwise don’t really know how to use vim. Saying vim doesn’t have a lot of features is just a meme that isn’t true.

    Also, the vim plugin for vscode is kind of a joke compared to what vim can do. It’s very “surface-level” with minor emulation of some of the common keybinds.




  • expr@programming.devtomemes@lemmy.worldreal
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    3 months ago

    No, the legacy of HJKL in modern tools comes from vi, which itself uses them because the original ADM-3A terminal that Bill Joy used when developing it used HJKL in lieu of arrow keys.

    vi was hugely influential and its legacy can be found in many tools beloved by software engineers and other tech-minded folks (and vi’s successor, vim, is still widely used to this day).




  • expr@programming.devtomemes@lemmy.worldThe millennial council
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    4 months ago

    I was born in '90. Some of my most cherished memories as a kid are playing 90’s video games: Donkey Kong Country 1-3, Super Mario World 1-2, and later, the revelation that was the N64. I didn’t get to watch a lot of TV, but when I did I loved 90’s cartoons like Dexter’s lab and Arthur (and Mobile Suit Gundam Wing whenever I could catch it, though that was exceptionally rare)

    I vividly remember people stockpiling for Y2K and my mom turning on a radio to listen to the reports of 9/11.

    I’m definitely a 90’s kid, and so is my brother who is a year younger than me ('91).