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Wait, they’re withholding security updates unless you pay? Hope they go bankrupt.

I really like Tumbleweed. Sure it updates a lot, but it doesn’t force updates so you can take it at your own pace.

Wow. Took them fucking long enough. They’ve been doing that with LGBTQ+ videos for ages already, so it’s not like the tech hasn’t been there. For shame.

Yeah I can see that. My work computer is a laptop, with an ultra wide external monitor. I never use the browser on the laptop screen because with vertical tabs it just takes up too much space. Otherwise vertical tabs give you an easy overview of what you have open if you like me tend to leave a tonne of tabs up.

That is only mostly true now. There is an about:config setting you can turn on in FF 129 (released this week)

That’s also the one with the intrusive, facebook-endorsed, opt-in advertising system, isn’t it? I use LibreWolf, because Mozilla doesn’t truly care for privacy.

I have an ultrawide. Vertical works a lot better on ultrawide than on more narrow screen ratios. Though ultimately it’s just a matter of preference. I personally dislike dark mode.

Oh, but it can still get worse!

Given that they are focusing on initiatives like intrusive adverts and machine learning BS, I’m okay with them cutting that kind of nonsense off; Firefox still doesn’t have a native vertical tab bar.

Well yeah, they superceded it in 2015 and eradicated it in 2018. They were doing evil before then too, of course, but I guess at that point they felt like they could just drop the mask.

This isn’t a foregone conclusion, just a number of things that are increasingly likely:

The system incentivises it, though. I don’t like dealing in absolutes, so I am inclined to agree with you on that basis alone. However, enshittification is not a bug, it’s a feature.

Google hasn’t just monopolised the ad industry, but is holding the internet itself in its clutches.

They own and control one of the biggest operating systems on the market, giving them control over peoples devices. They own and control the biggest browser engine on the market, giving them control over the internet standards; they can implement whatever the heck they want and essentially force it as a web standard. They own and control the biggest search engine on the market, giving them control over what information people can see and access.

For a lot of people, Google controls practically the entire internet access chain, and that should terrify anyone who cares about a free and open internet.

Aye. If changing a bulb is that involved the car isn’t that good.

I like that in a person.

Good ideas marred by a flawed execution.

Reading stuff like this makes me sick. All is not well with the world.

Advocates: take survivors of abuse seriously.
Society: Let’s have computers tell us what to do!

I mean I guess the risk of repeated murder-suicide is pretty low…

Yes, it is shitty. But if you at all care about privacy you should be monitoring your software anyway.

That’s only the case because privacy isn’t the default, and it should be. Privacy is something that’s been taken from us. I think people that don’t want to learn or care much about privacy are still entitled to it.

You’re probably right, and that’s precisely the point. They’re wasting time and resources on something no one wants.

We’ve been collaborating with Meta on this, because any successful mechanism will need to be actually useful to advertisers, and designing something that Mozilla and Meta are simultaneously happy with is a good indicator we’ve hit the mark.

Oh, truly? Facebook happy with something that somehow respects people’s privacy and integrity? Perhaps instead it just shows that Mozilla is slipping. Because they have been, and at this rate it seems like they won’t stop. Sad to see.

There is a toggle to turn it off because some people object to advertising irrespective of the privacy properties, and we support people configuring their browser however they choose.

That’s not good enough. If this thing needs to be present, the option should be there to toggle on, not off. I don’t opt-in to privacy in my bathroom or bedroom, the privacy is mine by default. I don’t have to announce to the world that I don’t want it peeking in.

Which will work great until corporations implement systems that force it onto us. Microsoft building it into the operating system. Mozilla acquiring advertising companies and implementing AI bullshit. Google edging closer to having a monopoly on browsers.