Good point. I’m going to release Mittens onto the street and get a brand new bunny rabbit instead.

You ever hear about how the Mafia uses pigs to dispose of bodies? It’s cause they eat them up, bones and all. Pigs love meat.

It doesn’t mean they should have meat. Same goes for humans.

Yeah! Nobody should be making decisions for a helpless animal over what diet they think is acceptable. Anyone who kills innocent cows over their belief in meat eating should be locked up.

Not the evil cows, though. They know what they did.

This. This exactly. I’m very poor so I can’t always afford to buy food for myself or my dog. So when times are tough, I kidnap the neighbours’ children and feed them to Fido. I’m not going to starve my dog, that’s animal abuse.

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Okay, but you have to know about plant-based steaks and vegan butter. And of course you know about vegan garlic and vegan potato, because all garlic and potato is vegan. What’s the extra cost of a vegan steak compared to an animal steak in your area? In mine it’s around 3 dollars.

Ah, so you’re saying you don’t like it, but you find it an acceptable sacrifice to make in exchange for yummy food?

Oh great, another annoying vegan here to tell me that killing animals for food is wrong

It sounds like you aren’t very assured of the validity of your sources in backing up your claims. If you don’t believe in your own sources, why are you so confident in your opinions?

Yeah! Someone could be vegetarian for lots of sensible reasons, like religion or fad diets. But veganism is based on the idea that slavery is wrong, which makes it bad.

Einstein said that common sense is the sum of prejudices acquired by the average person by age 18. Religions survive because of common sense. Because of biases taught to children and taken as fact because of their ubiquity. Anything based on common sense is a religion. If veganism is based on common sense, then veganism is no different from any other cult. I’ll never agree with anything based on common sense.

I have a live and let live attitude to veganism vs carnism. No living being should be forced to be a vegan, no living being should be forced to be a carnist, and no living being should be forced to be a hamburger. Can’t we just end all the aggression and live peacefully?

Cat food is food specifically formulated and designed for consumption by cats. As obligate carnivores, cats have specific requirements for their dietary nutrients, namely nutrients found only in meat or synthesised, such as taurine and Vitamin A.

Hey look, your Wikipedia link says the nutrients cats need from meat can be synthesised in literally the second sentence.

Vegetarian or vegan cat food has been available for many years, and is targeted primarily at vegan and vegetarian pet owners. While a small percentage of owners choose such a diet based on its perceived health benefits, the majority do so due to ethical concerns, such as about the large environmental impacts of animal agriculture.

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The outrageous vegans make the more moderate ones look reasonable to carnists, which increases the rate of adopting veganism.

Those aren’t scientific studies. The vegans have scientific studies. You expect me to believe you know better than them, but you can’t show me sources of equal quality?

I’m curious. You eat meat, but you’re not in favour of massacres. Alright, explain it to me.

Show me a scientific study that proves this. If you can say it with confidence, it should be no trouble at all for you to prove it. I, on the other hand, am lazy and don’t care all that much, so I want the people confidently stating opinions to share their research to save me effort.

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