• Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    I’m just going to leave the cdc report on sexual assault from 2010-2012 that says the same thing as my initial claim, with the same statistics in detail, for you to draw your own conclusions from. Check the tables from page 18 onward.

    My friend, statistics aren’t sexist. They just are. I don’t really have time to sit here and argue that women suffer more from sexual violence than men do. It’s not really up for debate, and I’ve learned not to engage the people who think it is.

    If you’re going to accuse me of misandry because I’m defending a woman’s prerogative to feel safe, I’m just not going to fire back. Have fun with that.

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      I think you’ll want to check those numbers, actually, since they perfectly match everything I’m saying (since it’s the published CDC report from the same time). But it is reassuring that even the source you cite has the same numbers I’m citing.

      If you’re so certain that your numbers are borne out by the data, could you please point out exactly where your claim that “more than 80% of the victims [of sexual assault] are women and more than 95% of the perpetrators are men” is borne out by the yearly data in this report?

      My friend, statistics aren’t sexist. They just are.

      I agree, which is why I took the time to cite the statistics exactly, instead of throwing out random numbers that aren’t borne out by the data.

      I don’t really have time to sit here and argue that women suffer more from sexual violence than men do. It’s not really up for debate, and I’ve learned not to engage the people who think it is.

      I’m not arguing that women don’t suffer more from sexual violence than men do. I’m just arguing that women suffer much less from sexual violence compared to men than is usually believed, that women commit sexual assault much more than is usually believed, and that men are raped as often as women are.

      As you say, this is not up for debate, and whether you “debate me” or not, it won’t change the facts, and I’ve made sure that this information is now available and organized for anyone who doesn’t insist on closing their eyes to misandry.

      Edit in response to your edit (the last line of your comment): That’s not an accurate description of what’s happening here, and playing the victim under the guise of “I’m just defending a woman’s prerogative to feel safe” isn’t going to work when all I’ve done is show that your misandrist claims about the perpetrators and victims of sexual violence are not correct.

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        Thank you for taking the time to break down these numbers. That CDC report is extremely misleading and this is not the first time I’ve seen someone attempt to break down the numbers. But you’ve done an especially good job of explaining it.

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        Page 25 and 32. Male perpetrators only statistic.

        It’s not ambiguous.

        I didn’t claim that the statistics I made were on rape or penetration or any specific form of sexual violence. Just that incidences are much higher in women being the victims and men being the perpetrators.

        Anyway, I’m not continuing this conversation further. It’s completely ridiculous to look at these statistics and draw the conclusion that I must be misandrist for reading the numbers how they are, because your breakdown of the numbers don’t exactly line up with mine but they still paint the same overall picture.

        Have a good night.