• Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    It’s not fear porn. It’s reality.

    If what you’re saying is that people respond poorly in general to the news, then fine. But that’s hardly the same thing as being negged into abusive relationships.

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      8 months ago

      You can use real scenarios as fear porn by hyper focusing on them, far beyond what’s reasonable, and to the exclusion of everything else.

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        8 months ago

        You’re treading a fine line with that logic claiming that news like this is designed to neg women into being constantly afraid.

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          8 months ago

          If making people aware of dangerous situations is a good thing, then being aware of how media can be used maliciously is also a good lesson.

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            8 months ago

            Sure. But painting women as completely beholden to the news to the point that they’re negged into paranoia and abusive relationships is blatantly over representing the problem.

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              But painting women as completely beholden to the news to the point that they’re negged into paranoia and abusive relationships

              I would say it’s people in general. Women just happen to be the targets of this particular manipulation. But all people are extremely susceptible to manipulation.

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                or is it intended to constantly neg you to the point you become a hollow shell of a woman, overly eager to please others out of fear for hypotheticals, no longer capable of recognizing good in others so you’ll settle for the abusive relationships you’ve been conditioned to expect?

                I’m using your words, in your phrasing. If I’m misrepresenting what you said, then you might want to reexamine what you said.

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                  You should read it more carefully. I’m speaking about the motives of those who spread fear porn, not the aptitude of women as a whole.

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                    8 months ago

                    Ok, and claiming that news pertaining to the rape and murder of women by men who were spurned is manipulative is better in what way?

                    Painting news organizations as having the overall goal of negging women into paranoia and abusive relationships doesn’t even make sense. If anything, their goal would be clicks, not sewing chaos in that way.

                    And anyway, insinuating that the problem in the original post is the news fear mongering to condition women, and not the pervasive problem of violent men assaulting women, is itself insulting to women. Which is the point I was originally making.

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      8 months ago

      Men are just as likely to get murdered by men as women are likely to get murdered by men.

      And yet men are not afraid of talking to other men.

      It ain’t the stats, it’s the perception.

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        8 months ago

        Thank you for being the voice of reason, and backing it up with data, Any chance you can share the source?

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        Women are physically inferior to men, and most men don’t have a sense of romantic entitlement towards other men. I really can’t believe I have to explain why the dynamic of men telling another man no is different from a woman doing the same.

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            Fear of demonstrably real repercussion. Not unwarranted fear.

            You’re trying to state that the fear should be just the same, but the dynamic is not. Men don’t tend to kill other men out of unrequited love. Trying to say that the difference lies purely in how the media portrays the problem is completely ignoring the context.

            It doesn’t matter if the murder rate of men to women vs men is roughly the same if the causes are fundamentally different.