• weker01@sh.itjust.works
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        2 days ago

        Jep, like I said did not look too closely into it. Anyway, the point is that taking statistics in a vacuum can lead to strange conclusions.

        Btw the gist I was going for, that statistically black men make up a disproportionate chunk of the homicide perpetrators in the US is a fact.

        USA Homicide Offending Rates By Race https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

        Still misleading on its own as it does not give insight into the cause of the discrepancy. Racists use this all the time to justify bigotry.

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          The gist you actually provided was “you are doing a bad thing and I’m disappointed in you, smh” and then proceeded to do something very similar followed by a non-apology.

          I actually agree with your point but it’s still a shitty way to do it.

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            Something similar? I read a picture wrong going of a fact I’ve heard before.

            I was just lazy I give you that. I did not double check but after someone pointed the mistake out I gave better numbers.

            So how is that similar to what happened before? My main point wasn’t that I distrust the numbers they are posting but the way it is not backed up with good explanations and/or potential causes.

            Reading back this comment does come off as overly defensive but I am genuinely confused what I did that is similar and how I should’ve behaved better in the face of my error.

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              It’s similar in that you presented a position that was not backed up by a reasonable interpretation of the data you also provided.

              What you did was different, in that is was a brief misunderstanding of the wording rather than a fundamental misunderstanding of causation and correlation.

              it didn’t seem defensive as much as dismissive.

              Honestly i could have just been reading tone in your response that wasn’t there, i get that wrong more often than i would like, if so i apologise.

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      1 day ago

      U.S. Homicide Gun Deaths

      How do you know you have a weak argument? You post “evidence” that has no relevance to the discussion because you’re so focused on your feeeelings you ignore facts and statistics.

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        1 day ago

        Yes, I did not look too closely into the statistic in the picture but see my other comment where I provided a more relevant statistic.