• schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business
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    7 days ago

    You kinda missed the most important detail: they’re competing with the mid-range (and yes, a 4060 is the midrange) for substantially less money than the competition wants.

    I know game nerd types don’t care about that, but if you’re trying to build a $500 gaming system, Intel just dropped the most compelling gpu on the market and, yes, while there’s an upcoming generation, the 60-series cards don’t come out immediately, and when they do, I doubt they’re going to be competing on price.

    Intel really does have a six month to a year window here to buy market share with a sufficiently performant, properly priced, and by all accounts good product.

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      6 days ago

      My main complaint isn’t with the performance, but the missed opportunity to release a higher SKU with more RAM. 12GB is enough for gaming with their performance, but adding more would open up other uses, like AI or other forms of compute. Maybe they still will, idk, but I would be totally willing to upgrade my AMD GPU if there was a compelling reason beyond a little better performance. Give me 16 or even 24GB VRAM for $300 or so and I’d buy, even if it’s not “ready” at launch (i.e. software support for AI/compute).

      As of now, the GPU is well placed for budget rigs, but I think they could’ve cast their net a bit wider.

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        6 days ago

        Yeah, you’re an enthusiast looking for enthusiast parts.

        Try to understand that you’re not the only people in the market or discussion.

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          6 days ago

          And that’s why I said it’s well placed for budget rigs. If I was building a computer today, I’d probably go with the B580.

          However, I already have a computer with an RX 6650 XT, and while the B580 is an upgrade (10-15% higher FPS, esp at higher resolutions), it’s not enough to really convince me to upgrade. However, a higher RAM variant would because it adds capabilities that I can’t get with my current card.

          Intel needs marketshare, and a high VRAM SKU would get a lot of people talking. They don’t even need to sell a lot of that SKU to make a big difference, it just needs to exist and have decent software support. They could follow it up with an enterprise lineup targeted at AI and GPGPU once the SW ecosystem is solid (which enthusiasts like me will help test).

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      6 days ago

      I said that in my comment. And no, 4060 is not midrange lol

      4090 48GB

      4090

      4080 Super

      4080

      4070 Ti Super

      4070 Ti

      4070 Super

      4070

      4060 Ti 16GB

      4060 Ti

      4060

      It’s literally the lowest end GPU they make. The 60-class GPU stopped being midrange for Nvidia with Pascal, although due to Nvidia’s exceptional marketing capability, they’ve tricked people into thinking that’s not the case.