Sorry, no. 15 million+ people that voted in '20 did not stay home because of Palestine. Jill Stein was the candidate I heard of most from the “Genocide Joe” crowd, and I don’t think she reach 1% in any battleground state. America does not care about the plight of Palestine. Sad truth.
Yeah, the people I know and spoke to all just said “I didn’t even vote, I couldn’t stomach it.” And the people who didn’t vote because they were put off by the choices don’t really get reliably surveyed—if anything we might find out a small sample size’s opinions months down the road, but more leftist circles are so disillusioned from being asked to plug their ears, hold their nose and vote for neoliberalism with a heavy splash of neocon garnish thrown in that they don’t engage. We can’t keep ignoring that segment of people. Some of them went to vote third party, but when you’re talking about a 4% difference, a lot desperately needs to be said of anyone left of Bernie madoff being written off as “extreme left.”
Yeah. Any party that gets desperate enough to court actual progressives will get a big boost.
That said, courting racists also seems to be pretty effective.
I choose to believe in a world where the second option is getting less viable while the first is becoming more viable, with time. But that’s just a matter of faith (with at least a little bit of evidence from history).
Courting racists is effective because disillusioned leftists DO TEND to metamorphose into racists and fascists over the long term. They get upset their party and politics are stagnating, get upset at the lack of political traction, and wind up eventually blaming other people. You see it more often in young people, but it definitely happens.
This isn’t a leftist phenomenon, it’s a liberal one. As the saying goes: Scratch a lib, a fascist bleeds.
All over the internet you’ll see liberals blaming brown people, LGBTQ, and women for democrat’s loss; assuming Kamala lost because she’s a black woman, despite all evidence pointing to her campaign; and even taking joy in the misery that Republicans will bring to all Americans as a way to get back at those people. They will learn all the wrong lessons from this, and the news media will feed those lessons to them.
They will never reflect on why the Democrats weren’t able to reach those people. Instead they choose to direct their hate at their fellow Americans for not falling in line, enthusiastically going to vote, and somehow convincing anyone else to do so, for a party that promised them nothing. They will act like this makes them any better than Republican voters, or the third-party and non-voters they hate so much. They will not see the wedge being driven between them and the left who stands for their class interests.
They won’t see that what really split their vote was Democrats’ legitimizing of Republicans stances by adopting Republican framing on the issues, and as a result, looking like a weak and feckless alternative to Republicans. This strategy only got the center to vote Republican and depressed turnout on the left, because they weren’t even going to be an obstacle for all the things Republicans wanted to do.
They refuse to see the democrats for what they are, doing everything they could to lose that election if the alternative meant they’d even nominally have to appear left of center. Americans are looking for answers, and Democrats utterly failed to provide them, utterly failed to counter a particularly weak republican platform. No amount of catastrophising can defeat the bad messaging and politics of an incompetent national campaign.
They stand for nothing, so they’ll fall for anything.
The MAGA Alt-media and then add Fox is super prolific if not mainstream at this point. They’ve gaslighted so effective that both Black males and Hispanics is shifting toward the GOP. The left would need to equal that push.
Sorry, no. 15 million+ people that voted in '20 did not stay home because of Palestine. Jill Stein was the candidate I heard of most from the “Genocide Joe” crowd, and I don’t think she reach 1% in any battleground state. America does not care about the plight of Palestine. Sad truth.
Yeah, the people I know and spoke to all just said “I didn’t even vote, I couldn’t stomach it.” And the people who didn’t vote because they were put off by the choices don’t really get reliably surveyed—if anything we might find out a small sample size’s opinions months down the road, but more leftist circles are so disillusioned from being asked to plug their ears, hold their nose and vote for neoliberalism with a heavy splash of neocon garnish thrown in that they don’t engage. We can’t keep ignoring that segment of people. Some of them went to vote third party, but when you’re talking about a 4% difference, a lot desperately needs to be said of anyone left of Bernie madoff being written off as “extreme left.”
Yeah. Any party that gets desperate enough to court actual progressives will get a big boost.
That said, courting racists also seems to be pretty effective.
I choose to believe in a world where the second option is getting less viable while the first is becoming more viable, with time. But that’s just a matter of faith (with at least a little bit of evidence from history).
Courting racists is effective because disillusioned leftists DO TEND to metamorphose into racists and fascists over the long term. They get upset their party and politics are stagnating, get upset at the lack of political traction, and wind up eventually blaming other people. You see it more often in young people, but it definitely happens.
This isn’t a leftist phenomenon, it’s a liberal one. As the saying goes: Scratch a lib, a fascist bleeds.
All over the internet you’ll see liberals blaming brown people, LGBTQ, and women for democrat’s loss; assuming Kamala lost because she’s a black woman, despite all evidence pointing to her campaign; and even taking joy in the misery that Republicans will bring to all Americans as a way to get back at those people. They will learn all the wrong lessons from this, and the news media will feed those lessons to them.
They will never reflect on why the Democrats weren’t able to reach those people. Instead they choose to direct their hate at their fellow Americans for not falling in line, enthusiastically going to vote, and somehow convincing anyone else to do so, for a party that promised them nothing. They will act like this makes them any better than Republican voters, or the third-party and non-voters they hate so much. They will not see the wedge being driven between them and the left who stands for their class interests.
They won’t see that what really split their vote was Democrats’ legitimizing of Republicans stances by adopting Republican framing on the issues, and as a result, looking like a weak and feckless alternative to Republicans. This strategy only got the center to vote Republican and depressed turnout on the left, because they weren’t even going to be an obstacle for all the things Republicans wanted to do.
They refuse to see the democrats for what they are, doing everything they could to lose that election if the alternative meant they’d even nominally have to appear left of center. Americans are looking for answers, and Democrats utterly failed to provide them, utterly failed to counter a particularly weak republican platform. No amount of catastrophising can defeat the bad messaging and politics of an incompetent national campaign.
They stand for nothing, so they’ll fall for anything.
Not sure why you’re being downvoted. There is a lot of flak on Hispanics and Black men from the left currently.
The MAGA Alt-media and then add Fox is super prolific if not mainstream at this point. They’ve gaslighted so effective that both Black males and Hispanics is shifting toward the GOP. The left would need to equal that push.