• SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
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    Isn’t most of steam pages like the discussion, store page, forums, guides, workshop etc are self moderated by the publishers and developers?

    And yeah they made Alyx in the last decade? They make hats for old games, that’s it it seems.

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      they have mobile games too, and a tech demo for the steam deck, and the known hero shooter in the works

      basically the people who think valve doesnt make games didnt buy into any of their expansionary market projects (mobile/vr/steam deck). They make games, just ones you dont want to play/cant play

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        Nah, their corporate structure legit caused them issues making games, people like to think valve as this perfect company, but it’s hella flawed and it’s peak capitalism too.

        Lemmy just seems to dislike anything remotely bad being said about them, it’s odd.

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          it’s peak capitalism too.

          The screenshot sounds more like “peak anarchism” to me.

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            Sure, but it’s capitalist because Newall takes advantage of it and reaps the benefits, the employees get burnt out and get no satisfaction since nothing ever gets completed.

            Think higher up the chain maybe? I don’t see how this is even arguable, but go off if you think you need to win something here.

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          im not a steam stan for any reason (i rarely even buy shit off the steam store directly) but its disingenuous to say they dont make games. Id argue peak capitalism is when you force a sequel to a game that didnt necessarily need it. there are a LOT of things I can conplain about when pertaining to valve, but not making games isnt one of them. its a poor argument to make when users choose not to play what they dod make.

          Its similar to Fallout and Elder Scrolls, its not that there ISNT a new fallout or elder scrolls game, its just they made ones that users mostly didnt want to play (ESO, FO:Shelter, FO:76, ES: Blades, ES: Castles) disregarding the also existing VR versions of each game.

          the argument sounds very similar to thise currently complaining on the Nintendo front that Famicom Detective Club got a new game, and not other nintendo IPs like Star Fox (which had Zero, Guard and Starfox 2) in the last decade, and Fzero (which had Fzero 99). its never a matter of they didnt make games, its the matter that they didnt make games they wanted

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          Letting your employees work on what they like doesn’t seem like the worst thing. It might hurt game profits but seems much nicer for the workers.

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            I’d personally take that over being forced to work on something like ‘The Dragonfly Project (Google).’ Most company cultures are so focused around ensuring a high return for the investors that employee happiness and morals seem like an afterthought. It was nice reading about a company letting their employees do what they love rather than micromanaging them.

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            It is, but when nothing being done, no goals are being met, it would seem like a dead end job. Sure the pay is great, but you are just spinning wheels.

            It also builds distrust in your fans, there’s literally memes about valve not counting to 3.

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      I’m not sure what do you mean as moderation of store page.

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        They make the information on the store page, they moderate the forums, guides and workshop.

        What does steam moderate themselves?

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          They make the information on the store page

          At least some progress. How information on the store page steam would add without developer? How would steam know title of game, price and other stuff without developer telling it.

          What does steam moderate themselves?

          Reviews and refunds.

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            How information on the store page steam would add without developer? How would steam know title of game, price and other stuff without developer telling it.

            What?

            They log in, provide the Information to the system, the system automatically processes it and posts it. You think there’s a person manually doing this task or something?

            Reviews of what? And 99% of refunds are automated since people use it as a free game testing service, the 2 hour window.

            Most of steam is automated dude, you don’t seriously think they are manually adding all this information with a keyboard from a mailed package or something do you?

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              They log in, provide the Information to the system, the system automatically processes it and posts it. You think there’s a person manually doing this task or something?

              Who they? Robots? Nvidia’s AI?

              Reviews of what?

              Of games, lol. We are talking about steam, did you forget already?

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                Of games, lol. We are talking about steam, did you forget already?

                Users review the games and they also tag the store as well…? What are you going on about here?

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                  Users review the games and they also tag the store as well…? What are you going on about here?

                  Answering your own question “What does steam moderate themselves?”, did you forget already?