People were bitching and moaning twenty years ago about midichlorians, a one-off throw away line that nobody knows it even exists, outside of huge Star Wars nerds.
As for the racism and sexism, it’s despicable, but nothing new. The “new” thing is the internet giving a place and validation to all those deranged individuals, who share controversial takes and create circlejerks and echo chambers where those controversial opinions are upvoted.
People were bitching and moaning twenty years ago about midichlorians, a one-off throw away line that nobody knows it even exists, outside of huge Star Wars nerds
That’s fully true, and I guess it just exposes my oldness, more than anything else. I still have the prequels in the “new shit that just came out, last Thursday” category, in my head. But yeah, that was literally twenty fucking years ago.
Modified theory: I still think nerds used to be a little more “I know oh-so-much more about this media than you ever will” and a little less “I’m eternally uncomfortable about the changes being made to my media.” Lucas came along and started tinkering with his own franchise, in a way that had not been very common, in past eras.
People were used to movies and shows being remade, and arguing about the merits of the original, versus the new shit. They were used to adaptations from books and comics often being disappointing. They were used to SEQUELS coming along and bringing new ideas. Ideas that sometimes even included some retcons, which would technically reach back and change some of the sacred original canon.
But Lucas made prequels very fashionable. AND he wasn’t very careful with what he changed, and how he changed it. And he didn’t listen to all the people telling him “hey, Jar Jar is annoying,” and “hey, these Galactic Senate scenes are cringe,” and “yo, we don’t need to know about how the Force works, on a cellular-biology level.” He just did what he wanted, in an entirely selfish, fart-sniffing way.
And that became the TEMPLATE for a lot of prequel media, up to the present day. I think film and TV producers started semi-deliberately antagonizing the oldschool fanbases, because it drives engagement.
That’s no excuse for people to act like fucking morons, but I do think that we, the nerds, are being consciously manipulated, to draw out the most inflammatory responses, from the worst of us.
Dude, you literally say at the start of your comment that:
nerds used to be a little more “I know oh-so-much more about this media than you ever will” and a little less “I’m eternally uncomfortable about the changes being made to my media.”
You then proceed to call a movie director “selfish” and “fart-sniffing” for telling the story the way he wanted to tell it. You’ve got to admit the irony in all this.
Also, it’s true that big companies are following trends and fostering memes to drive engagement, but I very much doubt that they are willingly antagonizing their own fan bases to drive negative engagement. That sounds like a nightmare that no social media manager would purposely walk into. Nobody is willingly stirring the pot by making people theorize conspiracy theories about a secret leftist agenda. That’s just humanity for you. Some are good people, a lot suck.
The entities that are willfully stirring the pot are social media platforms, who have a lot more to gain by having those people scream at one another in their feeds, because controversial takes can populate comment sections more and faster than mild takes, which drive engagement on those social platforms even further.
People were bitching and moaning twenty years ago about midichlorians, a one-off throw away line that nobody knows it even exists, outside of huge Star Wars nerds.
As for the racism and sexism, it’s despicable, but nothing new. The “new” thing is the internet giving a place and validation to all those deranged individuals, who share controversial takes and create circlejerks and echo chambers where those controversial opinions are upvoted.
That’s fully true, and I guess it just exposes my oldness, more than anything else. I still have the prequels in the “new shit that just came out, last Thursday” category, in my head. But yeah, that was literally twenty fucking years ago.
Modified theory: I still think nerds used to be a little more “I know oh-so-much more about this media than you ever will” and a little less “I’m eternally uncomfortable about the changes being made to my media.” Lucas came along and started tinkering with his own franchise, in a way that had not been very common, in past eras.
People were used to movies and shows being remade, and arguing about the merits of the original, versus the new shit. They were used to adaptations from books and comics often being disappointing. They were used to SEQUELS coming along and bringing new ideas. Ideas that sometimes even included some retcons, which would technically reach back and change some of the sacred original canon.
But Lucas made prequels very fashionable. AND he wasn’t very careful with what he changed, and how he changed it. And he didn’t listen to all the people telling him “hey, Jar Jar is annoying,” and “hey, these Galactic Senate scenes are cringe,” and “yo, we don’t need to know about how the Force works, on a cellular-biology level.” He just did what he wanted, in an entirely selfish, fart-sniffing way.
And that became the TEMPLATE for a lot of prequel media, up to the present day. I think film and TV producers started semi-deliberately antagonizing the oldschool fanbases, because it drives engagement.
That’s no excuse for people to act like fucking morons, but I do think that we, the nerds, are being consciously manipulated, to draw out the most inflammatory responses, from the worst of us.
Dude, you literally say at the start of your comment that:
You then proceed to call a movie director “selfish” and “fart-sniffing” for telling the story the way he wanted to tell it. You’ve got to admit the irony in all this.
Also, it’s true that big companies are following trends and fostering memes to drive engagement, but I very much doubt that they are willingly antagonizing their own fan bases to drive negative engagement. That sounds like a nightmare that no social media manager would purposely walk into. Nobody is willingly stirring the pot by making people theorize conspiracy theories about a secret leftist agenda. That’s just humanity for you. Some are good people, a lot suck.
The entities that are willfully stirring the pot are social media platforms, who have a lot more to gain by having those people scream at one another in their feeds, because controversial takes can populate comment sections more and faster than mild takes, which drive engagement on those social platforms even further.