Tutanota is in Germany, which is part of the 14 Eyes global surveillance network. Protonmail is located in Switzerland, not currently part of any such intelligence agreements. Switz courts are also much less willing to approve search warrants.
I already know both Videos and i am still convinced that ProtonMail is the best Mail provider. Them giving the IP Address to the French authorities “for no reason” is a claim I hear parroted a lot, but it’s simply not true. Also, if the French activist had used Tor or even just the free tier of ProtonVPN they wouldn’t have to worry about any of that, so it all comes down to bad opsec
Protonmail and protonvpn are the same company and they probably would send out logs from that to. Protonmails tor service is pretty sus to. Why would it redirect to a clernet site. Vpns are not private and defenetly not email. Email was never made to be private so it isn’t and once you use something personal with it you are fully identified like this lemmy account, if you have ever signed in to it without using tor they could just ask lemmy and get your ip so in the end it does not really matter. Neither protonmail or tutanota is the best for privacy i guess that would be cock.li or some other onion only email
Proton wouldn’t have to disclose the real IP from anyone using their VPN, you can read their Blog-Post on that here. I think they fixed the next point, but why wouldn’t it redirect to a clearnet site? You are already using tor, hopefully on the “Most Secure” setting, so why would you care? VPNs can be secure (like proton or, even better, mullvad), but I agree that most of them aren’t. I also agree that E-Mail was not designed to be secure, but that doesn’t mean that it can’t be. PGP exists, and since proton is heavily pushing for you to use it, I think it’s okay to use their service.
Cock.li is a nice Mail provider with a not so nice owner and while the philosophy behind it is pretty cool it’s AFAIK also on every spamlist possible. Also the domains are, aside from airmail.cc, just not good for any professional usecase
You can create accounts on onions so why would it redirect to clearnet. When accesing clearnet sites in tor it has to use a exit node and most exit nodes are most likely runned by law inforcements. I guess it does not really matter what you use since you shouldn’t really send messages over email anyways. Only to create accounts that most likely can identify you
and most exit nodes are most likely runned by law inforcements
and why would you care about that? the protonmail site is using https (which is something that MO has criticised on the onion site for some reason), so the law enforcement would have what? the ip of the middle-node, the ip of the package-destination, and the date the package was sent? that’s not really that much metadata tbh.
anyways yeah we should switch away from email to something like matrix ASAP, but tbh that won’t happen anytime soon
The lock in and the lies. The first being your inability to read your emails in another client. Second is the lie that it’s secure when email is inherently not second. It’s making a false promise.
Oh and I forgot the new issue, being that you can’t zoom mail, which is infuriating.
Disclaimer: I pay for Tutanota and have for a few years. But I’m tired of it. Will switch to another season once K-9 becomes Thunderbird for Android
Tutanota is one of the few good E-Mail services that i can think of, what’s so terrible about tutanota?
Tutanota is in Germany, which is part of the 14 Eyes global surveillance network. Protonmail is located in Switzerland, not currently part of any such intelligence agreements. Switz courts are also much less willing to approve search warrants.
That does not matter at all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeXaYR4ed9c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCx_G_R0UmQ
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I already know both Videos and i am still convinced that ProtonMail is the best Mail provider. Them giving the IP Address to the French authorities “for no reason” is a claim I hear parroted a lot, but it’s simply not true. Also, if the French activist had used Tor or even just the free tier of ProtonVPN they wouldn’t have to worry about any of that, so it all comes down to bad opsec
Protonmail and protonvpn are the same company and they probably would send out logs from that to. Protonmails tor service is pretty sus to. Why would it redirect to a clernet site. Vpns are not private and defenetly not email. Email was never made to be private so it isn’t and once you use something personal with it you are fully identified like this lemmy account, if you have ever signed in to it without using tor they could just ask lemmy and get your ip so in the end it does not really matter. Neither protonmail or tutanota is the best for privacy i guess that would be cock.li or some other onion only email
Proton wouldn’t have to disclose the real IP from anyone using their VPN, you can read their Blog-Post on that here. I think they fixed the next point, but why wouldn’t it redirect to a clearnet site? You are already using tor, hopefully on the “Most Secure” setting, so why would you care? VPNs can be secure (like proton or, even better, mullvad), but I agree that most of them aren’t. I also agree that E-Mail was not designed to be secure, but that doesn’t mean that it can’t be. PGP exists, and since proton is heavily pushing for you to use it, I think it’s okay to use their service.
Cock.li is a nice Mail provider with a not so nice owner and while the philosophy behind it is pretty cool it’s AFAIK also on every spamlist possible. Also the domains are, aside from airmail.cc, just not good for any professional usecase
You can create accounts on onions so why would it redirect to clearnet. When accesing clearnet sites in tor it has to use a exit node and most exit nodes are most likely runned by law inforcements. I guess it does not really matter what you use since you shouldn’t really send messages over email anyways. Only to create accounts that most likely can identify you
and why would you care about that? the protonmail site is using https (which is something that MO has criticised on the onion site for some reason), so the law enforcement would have what? the ip of the middle-node, the ip of the package-destination, and the date the package was sent? that’s not really that much metadata tbh.
anyways yeah we should switch away from email to something like matrix ASAP, but tbh that won’t happen anytime soon
The lock in and the lies. The first being your inability to read your emails in another client. Second is the lie that it’s secure when email is inherently not second. It’s making a false promise.
Oh and I forgot the new issue, being that you can’t zoom mail, which is infuriating.
Disclaimer: I pay for Tutanota and have for a few years. But I’m tired of it. Will switch to another season once K-9 becomes Thunderbird for Android