• nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 year ago

    Considering how overloaded lemmy.world is right now, a pi in someone’s basement would be better, and besides, centralization is bad. Federation is what prevents lemmy from becoming the next Twitter.

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    1 year ago

    Actually an instance dedicated to self hosted stuff would be great. We could have communities specifically for things like home lab, media hosting (Plex, Jellyfin, Emby), unRAID, TrueNAS, shit posting, hardware discussions, general conversations, etc.

    This would reduce the strain on lemmy.world and give us all a dedicated home for more niche topics without posts getting buried

  • terribleplan@lemmy.nrd.li
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    1 year ago

    Yeah… it is kinda hypocritical for this community to be based on .world, haha. There are plenty of people here running instances, who wants to volunteer as tribute and to sign up to be on call?

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      1 year ago

      Well, it’s self-hosting, right. We each host our own server with our own self-hosting community. Alone. No other posters, commenters, or voters. Just each of us in isolation talking to ourselves about our hosting setup.

      This is a dumb meme, there’s no such thing as self-hosting a community. A community only becomes valuable when you share it beyond the hoster, at which point it stops being self-hosted for most community-members. I believe Ruud did actually create this community, which means it is properly self-hosted as much as a successful community can be.

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        1 year ago

        It is, but it’s also on a server that’s crippled by load. Each community having an instance makes sense as far as load goes.

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      1 year ago

      I’ve got business fiber, redundant networking, power, storage, and servers! With a bunch of compute sitting offline atm. Would be willing to give it a shot 🤔

      Needs monitoring though.

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    1 year ago

    I want to self-host but don’t know how to code etc so not sure where to even start

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      1 year ago

      Never self-hosted Lemmy, but have self-hosted other things in the past. While you don’t necessarily need to code, you need a fair amount of code-adjacent skills. If you ever want to get into self-hosting, you should have a look into (at least):

      • the linux command line
      • ssh
      • how ports work
      • VPS providers
      • DNS registrars
      • nginx
      • docker (while you don’t need it to host things, it makes your life 10x easier)
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        1 year ago

        docker (while you don’t need it to host things, it makes your life 10x easier)

        …until you have a single extra space character hiding 20 lines into your compose file and the whole thing falls over the next time you try to bring the containers up.

        Lint your code and configs every time!

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          Xml wasn’t great but yaml is 2 steps backwards

          Edit: tfw 3months ago

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    I laughed but I dunno about you guys but I don’t publicly self host anything. If you can’t auth via ssh or VPN then you’re not accessing a damn thing from my home network. I’ve got multiple routers that I could set up some isolation with but it’s just too close to home.

  • LachlanUnchained@lemmyunchained.net
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    1 year ago

    I’m hosting one right now. Lemmyunchained.net

    But in will have to Limit Users at some point.

    I dont Think people properly understand they can be on any server. And join multiple communities. And it all Show up in their Feed. They don’t Need to worry about “which community has the Most Users”

    • 🦥󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠@lemmy.world
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      In practice right now it can be a bit schetchy tbh. Finding and subscribing to them is flakey and searching can be a bit hit and miss too.

      When it does all work both smoothly and seemlessly then we’ll be golden.

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      1 year ago

      Out of curiosity what has the disk usage growth looked like so far for your lemmy instance? I occasionally selfhost but I’m not a hardcore datahorder or anything so the replication of data from instances you subscribe to has me on the fence.

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        1 year ago

        Lady i checked, it was about 21g used from a 1tb ZFS pool.

        My instance isn’t minuscule though. Few months old and only 20 users. I’m curious about longer term growth though. No idea how long 1tb will last, but I have more of need be.

        (This is my little lab)

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          Damn that setup is no joke. 21GB in a few months initially sounded like a lot to me… but I decided to math it out. Lets say the 20gb was across 1,2 or 3 months…

          Time till 1tb would fill up.
          +------+-----------+----------+----------+
          |      | 3 months  | 2 months | 1 month  |
          | 1 TB | ~12 years | ~8 years | ~4 years |
          +------+-----------+----------+----------+
          

          That data usage is looking pretty reasonable… Even 20gb per month is something that wouldn’t be too hard to keep up with and I’m sure eventually there’ll be a way to clean up old posts that no one on your instance saved or commented on if you are trying to save space. I’d start to worry if disk usage was hitting closer to 40gb a month.

          • LachlanUnchained@lemmyunchained.net
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            1 year ago

            i wish there was a way to show the growth over time, because obviously some is taken up by the OS, then all the initial setup of lemmy. I’ll keep an eye on it as it grows.

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              Grafana + something like influxdb+telegraf would do the trick. It sounds like you don’t have metric gathering like that on your instance? If that’s the case I’m surprised you don’t when you’re running with a full server rack haha.

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      I’ve seen something like 8 comments pointing people towards their own servers.

      Which essentially guarantees a level of community fragmentation as to prevent community growth, cohesive, or general activity does it not?

      Ideally each community “group” would have their own Lemmy instance.

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      Unless I am mistaken, when the instance you sign up with dies, so does your account? Obviously your content and potentially profile will exist in some state, but you would no longer be able to authenticate, so for all intents and purposes your account is gone.

      While that won’t matter for some, for others that means there is some importance in the decision of where you create your account. Since, once that instance decides to shut down (or if it happens to defederate,) your account goes with it.

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    In terms of an optimal load spread, it’s best if the lemmiverse is split into multiple equally sized instances. If you use an instance just for yourself, it doesn’t actually decrease the load on the main servers in any way. The only thing you get is a guarantee that your instance won’t suddenly go down.

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    Oh my god, I laughed so loudly that I had to explain this comic to my wife. She thought I’m dying already.

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        1 year ago

        Now it’s full of people who aren’t hosting it and it’s not self-hosted for them anymore.

        The idea of a self-hosted community is meaningless. It has to attract people other than the hoster to be useful.